中国社会科学院西亚非洲研究所助理研究员、陕西师范大学土耳其研究中心兼职研究员章波于2019年11月15日接受《中国日报》采访，并就近年来美国与土耳其关系的走向发表了自己的看法。章波研究员指出，美土两国维持着双方相互利用的关系。一方面，特朗普政府的“美国优先”政策要求其中东盟友在打击恐怖主义方面担负起更多责任，因此，美国会进一步拉拢土耳其。另一方面，土耳其在处理某些重大问题时，也迫切需要美国的支持，诸如叙利亚难民问题、库尔德问题、地区反恐问题等。采访全文内容如下：

Consensus eludes Trump, Erdogan

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan (left) and US President Donald Trump arrive at a news conference on Wednesday at the White House in Washington. PATRICK SEMANSKY/ASSOCIATED PRESS

US President Donald Trump and visiting Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan failed to arrive at a consensus on security issues at a meeting on Wednesday.

However, even as major differences remain, relations between the two countries are seen as resilient and likely to pick up after recent strains.

After the much-anticipated meeting at the White House to address a crisis in the bilateral relationship, Trump said he was "a great fan" of the Turkish leader and that they had a "productive" encounter.

But they fell short of explaining in concrete terms how they would overcome the mounting differences on numerous issues, from Erdogan's incursion in Syria against the United States' Kurdish allies to Turkey's purchase of the Russian S-400 missile defense system.

In a joint news conference, Trump said Turkey's purchase of the missile system from Russia "creates some very serious challenges".

"We are talking about it constantly, we talked about it today, we're talking about it in the future," Trump said, indicating that the United States had failed to persuade Turkey－a member of the US-led NATO alliance－to drop its purchase of the system.

Erdogan said the two countries could overcome their differences only through dialogue. "We are in agreement to further Turkish-American ties on a healthy ground. We have agreed to open a new page in our relationship," he said.

Relations between the US and Turkey have been under severe strain since October when Erdogan ordered the offensive against Kurds in northern Syria, following Trump's announcement that US troops would be withdrawn from there.

Trump threatened to impose sanctions if Turkey went too far in its campaign against the Kurds and caused excessive bloodshed.

However, the ties between the US and Turkey have never been broken over the years, said Zhang Bo, a researcher from the Institute of West-Asian and African Studies of Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

Zhang said the two countries have maintained what he characterized as a relationship of mutual use.

"Under Trump's 'America First' policy, the US wants its Middle East allies, including Turkey, to shoulder more responsibility in anti-terrorism actions so that the US can step away from the battlefield. Thus, Trump will keep drawing Turkey to his side," he said.

In turn, Zhang said, Turkey relies on Washington's support to deal with the tough issues the country is facing, such as the masses of Syrian refugees it is hosting, the Kurdish presence on the Syrian border and anti-terrorism operations.

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